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Earth4Energy questions, how long and how cheap?
I might be looking into buying that kit, and im wondering like what is the cheapest easiest first porject it shows you how to do, and for how much?
and how long does that first project take?
and how long do the other project approximately take and for how much $?
thank you very much
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If your motivation is to reduce your energy bills, then you should first look at conservation projects. These are things like using low flow shower heads, replacing old appliances and adding more insulation.
If your motivation is to generate some energy for learning purposes or as a matter of principle, then consider the following:
Building a wind generator yourself is not a simple project. If you can build an utility trailer for your truck (welding, metal fabrication) then you could certainly tackle the job. There is a great book available from www.otherpower.com called Homebrew Wind Power plus you can order any parts and assemblies that are beyond your abilities to fabricate. Cost of turbine is about $2000 and you need a tower as well. There are cheap units at some hardware stores but they are garbage compared to to the unit designed by www.otherpower.com
A more realistic project would be to get a commercial solar panel (making your own from broken cells on eBay is not worth it), inverter, charge controller and battery and using it to power some things in your house. For about $1000 you could have something to power a small computer. A complete system to power your home is more in the $30,000 range.
There are, unfortunately, no cheap ways to make your own power as Earth4Energy is promoting other than perhaps getting lucky in an eBay auction or purchasing a solar system from a bankruptcy sale.
Do your conservation measures first. Then read Homebrew Wind Power, read the solar links at http://www.nlcpr.com/Links1.php and then decide what type of project you are up for. By then, you will know exactly what you want to do.
Grid connect Controller for wind turbine driven induction generator (async motor)?
Thanks to your many very helpful answers to my previous questions I was able to find a company that sells such a device. As you may recall, I was intrigued by this device: http://www.clariantechnologies.com/main/page_home.html. It is a vertical axis wind turbine driven async motor that acts as an induction generator that plugs directly into an existing outlet in your home. No inverters, no batteries. Sales price around $500. With an electric meter (a freebie from our power company) than can run backwards, this would allow me to greatly reduce my energy bill all at a very low cost. To make the cost even cheaper, and to increase the power output, I want to make my own wind turbines, and use my own async motors. So all I need is the controller.
I have found a company that sells such a device: http://www.prairieturbines.com for $830. It connects a 5500 watt wind turbine driven async motor directly to the grid. No inverter, no batteries. It uses a “hall-device” to measure the RPM, it provides about 1 AMP to the motor to energize its coils, 50amp solid state “zero-cross relays”, capacitors, 30amp breaker/enclosure, an exterior mounted disconnect, and an interior-mounted fused-control voltage switch. This is it!!!
So my question is, does anyone know how to build this controller. This company doesn’t sell the plans to this, and $830 is too high for me. I am sure I could build this with components for less that $400. If there is any electrical engineering person out there that can help, this will be a challenge, but it is great knowing that someone already has figured this out and is selling it.
Look at the Prairie Turbines site again. The price of the micro-controller including the hall device is $255. The $45 book provides a complete list of material and instructions to build everything else.
The micro-controller monitors the speed sensor and provides control signals to two solid-state relays. One relay connects the motor to the grid when the speed reaches the motor’s 1800 RPM synchronous speed and disconnects the motor if the speed drops below 1800 RPM. The other relay is energized to release the brake when the controller is energized and de-energized by the controller when the motor speed exceeds the maximum safe operating speed. If this occurs, the controller apparently must be manually reset.
I did not find the maximum safe operating speed stated on the web site. If the full load speed of the motor is 1750 RPM, the full load slip is 1800 minus 1750 or 50 RPM. The speed at which the motor would generate full load current and present full load torque to the turbine is 1800 RPM plus the full load slip or 1850 RPM. With the design described, a three-phase motor is connected to a single phase source with capacitors connected between the source and the third motor phase. That is likely to increase the motor slip somewhat.
I am not sure what happens if the motor is driven above the speed at which it generates full load current. A three-phase motor operating as an induction generator connected to a three-phase supply has a torque vs. Speed curve that is something like the mirror image of the motoring torque vs. Speed curve. The curve is likely different with the single-phase connection used in this case. I don’t know what the speed vs. Current curve looks like in either case, but I will see if I can find it. I am also curious to know if the Alan Plunkett listed on the web site as an author is the Alan Plunkett that is well known author of technical papers on inverter and variable frequency drive subjects.
I found information indicating that, for a 3-phase motor connected to a 3-phase supply, the speed vs. Current curve for induction generator operation is like a mirror image of the speed vs. Current curve for motor operation. That would mean that the maximum speed would need to be limited to the synchronous speed plus the full-load slip. The web site indicates that the full-load speed for the motor that they used is 1725 RPM for 3-phase operation. That would make the maximum speed 1875 RPM plus the additional slip due to the single phase with capacitor arrangement.
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how to make a mini wind tunnel?
Our group is making a mini wind tunnel for the college exhibition (STD XI). we want to study the pattern of air movement around various types of vehicles and aircraft(toys) by leaving a trail of gas or smoke.there are many other ways of doing so like sticking fine strips of paper at different points on the vehicle, but we want to use the old method by using smoke as it will give a clear picture of air movement. please give some ideas especially on how to make the smoke generator for the same.
Smoke is a problem because most smoke will also contain carbon monoxide, and that’s not the kind of stuff you want your “exhibit” producing at a science fair.
I have absolutely no idea if it would work…but…Halloween is over and many retailers will prbably be having clearance sales on their Halloween items. I know that those “fog machines” produce their own cloudy “stuff”. I’d suggest you look into a buying a discounted fog machine, now that the sales are on.
You can also make your own fog machine if you want.
Best Solar Power Home related magazines?
We’re planning to incorporate Solar design features into our next home – actually, we’re looking at wind & solar. Which magazines are worth subscribing to? Which are not?
I should specificy that we’re more interested in passive solar than in solar panels.
Actually, check out some of the links on http://www.builditsolar.com
If you are going to do much of the work yourself, you will be sadly disappointed by what is available in print:
Homepower magazine http://www.homepower.com for example, it most often reads like a sales brochure, because “hands on” to a number of people usually means buying most of the system ready made in a kit. Hands on for me is breaking out the soldering iron and doing point to point wiring on components to construct the regulators (often called charge controlelrs.) Too much chaff for a hands on person to find useful. Some of the ads are useful.
Nuts and Volts http://www.nutsvolts.com/ is a bit better, but their topical coverage is far ranging so you do not always get as much as you would like. Spendy, might be better to sheck it out at the bookstores and buy it off the newstand when a decent article appears.
Mother Earth news http://www.motherearthnews.com is pretty good, but the best bang for the buck there is to buy their archives on CD rom, which is 3 disks, broke down by decade. There is a fair amount of substance, sometimes you encounter an article that sought to convert one item over to another, only it would have been much less work and cost for them to have started out from ground level and construct (with used parts) the same thing, which they sought to construct in the first place, a solar charged electric tractor is one specific item I have come to mind as one the author of the article could have done better. You might find the book they published “The Mother Earth News Handbook of Homemade Power,” which is not real good for specifics in some areas, but is good for some ideas if you are good at working from thumbnail sketches, you can fill in the blanks where there are gaps in detail. The book was written more as a “primer” than a complete compillation.
For your wind systems, there is a lot to be found at http://www.lindsaybks.com Hugh Piggott has written a few good books on the home construction of windmills. The LeJay Manual is a good reprint that has a lot of good info for home constructing- down to the wooden propeller profiles. As well as the book “Generator Secrets.”
One of the good sources for materials and tools supplies and systems is Northern Tool http://www.northerntool.com
One thing on propeller materials- never us ABS and never use PVC. As tempting as those can be they break. When they break, the blades will go for a great distance in modest winds. They can kill too.
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What is the establishment cost for a coal burning factory?
I need this for a science assignment. Holy crap do I hate science.
So yeah, what is the establishment cost to set up a coal burning factory? (Where the coal is transferred into energy)
The current establishment cost of a coal fired power station is about $2000 per kilowatt of power produced. Over a 50 year life; this is quite low compared with establishment costs for wind and solar power generation, and a lot (hundreds) of wind generators are needed to produce the same power output of a large coal powered generator. This is why it is proving difficult to replace coal for large scale power generation.
Here’s a wiki ref:
How can laws of thermodynamics applied to the system of wind power?
Apply the 1st and 2nd laws to the wind powersystem. State what conclusions (environmental, economic…) can you draw from applying the 2 laws.
Energy conservation can show how efficient/cost effective a wind power generator can be.
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How much wind does a wind turbine need to make energy for a small island?
what would be the best turbine [large or small] to use on a small island that has appriox 128 people. i need to also know how much wind there needs to be for a wind turbine to produce energy. Sources would be nice thanks
As can be seen from the power curves in the first link, there is nothing till about 12km/h wind, then only a small fraction of the maximum power which is reached at around 28km/h. It is important to undertake a proper survey, as wind shear can have a large influence. The Vestas site has advice about planning, but not much detail. Send them an email.
In this kind of situation, with no grid to fall back on, it is usual to have diesel generators running to smooth the load. These are special “low load” types (see the 6th link below). They run on no load when the wind is there, synchronised with the wind generators.
I should warn you that it is easy to convince yourself that a wind system is ok when it isn’t, because you want it to be true. There are all sorts of considerations. It may make sense to have oversized turbines so you still get enough power despite bad wind. What happens when no-one is using power? One or two big ones or lots of smaller ones? You need the turbine manufacturer and/or experienced consultants to help make these decisions with a proper site appraisal. If the trees are all horizontal that is a good start. It should definitely be what most people would think is a windy place, and with steady winds. Solar panels are easier to engineer, perhaps lower risk, but it does depend on where you are too. No clouds in that case. It is not uncommon to have them together, with the low load diesels.
You probably already know the peak power demands from existing power supplies. You should try to factor in for 25 years growth of island power usage too. The figure varies, especially because or airconditioning/heating situation. One could say a typical is 4kWh per house per day. You have to consider community buildings too. This figure takes no account of peak demand anyway. It tells you how much fuel you need for diesel generators.
Vestas is a Danish pioneer in larger wind systems, with some innovative features.
The first link shows power versus wind speed.
The second link also has these for the latest models, look for the brochures. It also gives advice about
The third link has a list of other manufacturers.
The 4th and 5th links have pictures of wind farms with some details that could be helpful for contacts.
The sixth link is about low load diesels.
How to get prepared to find a job as a wind turbine technician?
I am currently on my last year of A&P school to work on aircraft but in my region of Northeast Indiana, I’m starting to see more and more wind farms popping up. I am considering working on wind turbines and understand the nasty weather, heights and amounts of climbing that job can bring. I’m just not sure if acquiring my A&P could get me the job and the necessary skills for that line of work. Am I ready to start talking to an employer to get in?
Climbing 200 feet is important. Once a year someone has to climb down and hand inspect each blade. Being comfortable working on machinery at 200 feet is required. You don’t climb much in nasty weather, but you will climb to the nacelles in winter.
Most windmills use a induction generator with a back to back inverter. The generator generates power at whatever frequency, and the inverter converts it to 60hz. Being able to trouble shoot this type of equipment is a plus.
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How big a generator do I need to run the essentials for a home, including a well pump?
We are wanting to purchase a generator for emergenices, but how big do we need one to be? I am especially interested in the running of our well pump for water (we are in a rural area). What type of generator would work best? Are there solar alternatives?
The smallest I would recommend is 5000 watts. This should be enough to operate the well pump, small cooking appliances, lights, television, fridge, etc. Power will be limited and you will have to be careful not to overload the generator. I power my house with a 5500 watt generator. You should also consider installation of a proper transfer switch and be aware of the dangers of carbon monoxide poisoning.
Read through my generator page listed below for more information.
If your main goal is to power the well pump solar or wind are not feasible. The power requirements are simply too high. It may be an option to supplement your electrical consumption for other smaller loads however.
How can do I make a home made electric generator?
I will like to know how I can make a home made electric generator. I know you can buy them today for cheap but I tought it would be a fun project.
I’m not sure from your question what you want to make, the generator itself or a system that generates power?
The generator itself would be very difficult for home production. Take apart a car alternator or starter motor (which would work as a generator) and see whats involved. Using these same items to generate power from another source such as wind is perfectly reasonable to do with directions how available on the Internet.
Having said that, if you just wanted to make something that worked but wasn’t actually practical, take a look at the link http://www.howard.k12.md.us/res/MakingStuff/motor.html
This would work as an ac generator if the ends of the wire wound on the cork were connected to some type of collector ring and brushes and the needle turned by something
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Are you for actual ‘American Independence’?
Are you embarrassed when you see our leaders [representing you] ‘bowing down’ to countries like Saudi Arabia? Take a look at the following story. I live in Ga. so this hits fairly close to home for me but this is a scenario that is being played out across the country.
Governor Sanford Announces Opposition to Coal-Fired Plant
Columbia, S.C. – February 11, 2009 – Governor Mark Sanford today announced his opposition to a proposed coal-fired power plant to be built by Santee-Cooper in Florence County, saying that projections related to the need for the plant need to be revisited, along with the potential for harm to the state’s environment.
“Everyone involved agrees that building this coal-fired plant is a short-term solution to bridge the gap between now and the time more nuclear capacity comes online,” Gov. Sanford said. “We have a great deal of respect for many of the decision makers in this process and many of the advocates who have pushed so hard for this plant to be built. To that end, I’d single out O.L. Thompson for his leadership of Santee Cooper, and given what’s at stake here I’d thank him in particular for his thoughtful approach to everything he works on.
“In that same vein, I’d respectfully suggest that the environmental community be equally thoughtful in making a choice. It’s simply not realistic to suggest that neither coal nor nuclear is acceptable, because like it or not, one or the other must come our way as our state grows over time. To that end, I’d ask the environmental community to indeed embrace nuclear power as an alternative to the coal-fired plant proposal, for the advantages it has in terms of cleaner emissions.”
Governor Sanford laid out four broad concerns about the coal-fired plant proposal:
– Construction and operating costs – On Friday, the Obama Administration said it intended to reverse Bush Administration policies related to not capping mercury emissions, with action carbon dioxide emissions expected to follow. Those forthcoming caps have not yet been factored in to the cost of building and operating the plant. For this reason on Monday, Nevada Power canceled plans for a $5 billion coal fired plant in that state.
– Pollution – The proposed plant would have a significant negative impact on air quality and increase mercury pollution. The plant would emit the equivalent of 2.3 million cars in carbon dioxide yearly, and nearly 15 million cars’ worth of particulate matter.
– Growth projections – Given Santee Cooper’s overall decrease in power sold last year and a statewide slowdown in new home construction, the growth projections that showed the need for the plant need to be revisited.
– Coal prices – Unpredictability in the global commodities market may make the coal needed to run the plant more expensive than originally anticipated.
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So..There are several forces at work here
Environmental groups including Al Gore and Co.
Obama administration / agenda.
A state governor who [to my amazement] is basing his decision ‘in part’ on a bet Against Future Growth in his state. (what does this pessimistic attitude say about us?)
Feel free to add to this list.
IMO..The time for a half azzed approach to energy independence is long gone. Let’s get in gear and enlist the private sector to Make Coal Plants Cleaner! We have LOTS of coal so let’s get the damned things built! Same with the Nuclear Plants. If the wishy-washy French can do it then what about the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave! As we speak the Obama administration is pushing to put More taxes and Restrictions on the production and sale of Natural Gas! This is one area which shows real promise because of huge new deposits that have been found On Our Soil in the past few years.
Isn’t it time to get in gear and stop playing games with our Independence? Can’t means Don’t Want To!
(( I understand that the Governor is making a choice to focus on nuclear based on budget constraints and long term advantages but if we are serious about this then we need to take advantage of All viable sources..here at home! ))
I hear ya,that 10 year goal for ‘alternatives’ sounds good on paper but the problem is we’re walking across a field of diamonds to find a few ‘possible’ gold nuggets!
Edge1: What’s up Bro? All the more reason to keep the damned feds out of you state business! What’s good for New York may not work in Vegas.
Looks like the Irish are fired up today!
cons/mom: I heard it and I remember it well!
Libertarian Soul: I’m not knocking Sanford here. He’s fighting a hydra-headed monster!
Ol’Foolosifer/Edge1: What about this combination? Nuclear for major cities. In rural ares take advantage of what we have in abundance..sunshine and natural gas. Each home could have solar panels and each community could have a generation station of generators run off of natural gas. Here in Ga. some counties invested in deep water wells as a back-up in case of a drought and sure enough we just went through one and those counties were sitting pretty!
You know the feds hate this idea..too much independence for us is bad for them!
Canam: “His opposition to this coal plant does indeed have gore and obama written all over it”
Thank you. That’s the first thing that jumped out at me. He’s being Black-mailed!
Sash: I saw the replay of that speech today. You can see why they hate him and Coulter so much. That truth stuff is scary to them.
blue: My condolences. I forgot you live in RINOland. I have family out there and ther’re ready to storm the castle walls! I’ve noticed you have a very good memory and you’re ON them every step of the way. Keep your doors locked and be alert. They may decide you’re a good lobotomy candiidate. I’m not giving up on trying to convince you to trade in that framing hammer for a S&W revolver.
Dropshort: Believe it or nt AL GORE has hi sticky fingers in that too! They’re worried that it’ll disrupt the mating habbits of some damned desert rat or some such critter. No I’m not kidding!
John: I’m with ya!
neurotic: He is big on that pie in the sky crap isn’t he. It’s time do the business or get off the pot!
While I’ll admit that coal fire power is a pollutant, at this present time we could use it to boost the grid and lower costs of power. The problem is, it takes longer to build a nuke plant and more safeties must be in place. I believe in using what we must as a stop gap until the Green Industry catches up and this could take several years to do.
True Solar power would be best as far as emissions are concerned, but this is also more expensive to set up and when there is no sun shine for several days this could be a problem.
When Con-Edison first started up, each neighborhood had their own generators, which covered a certain area. This agenda could be used again with the solar idea and by doing so, could reduce costs to those in their areas if they would also set up solar panels to help in producing their own power and if any was not used it could be diverted into the grid and help the other areas.
I believe through a system of wind, coal, nuclear, solar and even water powered generators we could produce much more than we need, by combining the grids of each.
Edit: If I could find a way to run my house without the need of any outside influence I would build a high fence around it of stone and secede from the union. Welcome to the free nation of Liberty!
Californians! Are you furious?
In the midst of the highest unemployment rate, foreclosures, well lets face it… a depression, we just got soaked with huge tax increases for the right to breathe in this over-bloated state. Here is a calculator to see how it will affect you!
I am so mad I am ready to blow, any one else care to comment on this mess?
I am so outraged that I spent the morning emailing the governator and our representatives in Sacto. I have been plaguing them with emails since this budget debaucle began, but this is the worst possible outcome! It really irritates me that they reached into the pockets of those of us who are still hanging on to our jobs and homes, but can barely keep ourselves from falling off the proverbial financial cliff. We have seen increases in food, electric, water, trash collection to the tune of 30-35% in the last year, losses of 35-40% in our home values, IRAs, 401ks and investment accounts and our wages have been stagnant or barely able to keep up with the increases in health care premiums or co-pays. In order to pay the increased personal income tax, we will have to save every dime of the $13 in federal stimulus and will still owe about $1300 to the state. In addition, the increase in vehicle license fees, sales taxes and other provisions will only serve to slow down purchases because consumers will tighten the purse strings even more. What burns me most is that they never even discusses suspending free services for the education, health care, social services or welfare to anchor babies of illegals. There is a huge sigh of relief in the illegal alien community that at least they will not be affected by the income tax increases while they still retain their free benefits while all of us taxpaying suckers get less government services and huge tax increases. Even my avatar is red faced with the passage of this budget! Did you notice, they basically snagged everything we could have gotten that might have benefitted us from the fed? We won’t be able to take advantage of purchasing energy efficient appliances, solar panels, wind generators, new cars and can’t even spend our stimulus because we will owe it to the state.
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